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Monday, June 21, 2010

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I hope everyone watched Gasland which aired on HBO tonight. If you haven't seen it you need to do so. Before the oil and gas industry turns your backyard (literally) into a poisonous fracking sewer.

Gasland (the movie)

Gasland (Facebook page)

Gasland (Wiki page)

Filmaker Josh Fox with Jon Stewart - Daily Show video segment
(June 21, 2010).

¹ Gasland (trailer):




NYTimes
June 21, 2010,
Muckraking Road Movie on Natural Gas Drilling
By JEREMY EGNER

The filmmaker Josh Fox in an image from “Gasland,” a documentary on problems attributed to natural gas drilling.

As oil continues to flow in the Gulf of Mexico, a new documentary investigates a landlocked drilling controversy.

[...]

Q. You obviously have strong feelings about this issue. Do you think you gave a fair presentation of it? Were there any towns you encountered that had a positive experience with drilling leases?

A. I’ve been asking the industry since the movie has been out there, “If you’ve got a town where there’s more than 100 wells, and everything’s going fine, and you don’t have these issues, take me there.” Because I haven’t found it. And I’ve been to hundreds of places. I have not found a place where this is going swimmingly, where you don’t have a significant portion of the people in those towns complaining about problems with the water and the air. So, no, I don’t think it exists.

Q. The film is about hydraulic fracturing, also known as “fracking” — is there a form of natural gas drilling that you do think is acceptable?

A. That’s not my forte, but from what I understand they don’t have nearly the same kinds of problems when they’re doing lower-pressure drilling or the traditional, conventional natural gas drilling. … My main focus was on fracking, which will supposedly revolutionize the industry. I think we all know from what’s going on in the Gulf what can happen when you have unregulated extractive energy.


June 23, 2010:

Shale gas drilling controversy / Enviro Politics Blog
Because drilling for natural gas in the Marcellus Shale is no longer a high-risk venture pursued by a score of small and moderate-sized, independent gas companies. It’s now become big business—big international business.

Mason writes:

“We already know that energy companies, including BP, have been involved in lobbying against tighter shale gas regulation, asking that decisions are taken at state level, rather than being left to the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA).

“After all, they have a huge amount to lose if the US suddenly loses its fervour for shale.

“The London-listed companies are exposed to the tune of billions: Shell bought up $4.7bn of assets in Marcellus last month, BG Group has a $2bn joint venture with Exco and BP has a $2.5bn partnership with Chesapeke.

“They have all piled into shale drilling over the last couple of years, touting the technology as the answer to America’s energy thirst.”


To reinforce the point, Mason notes that BP’s Tony Hayward has hailed shale gas as a “complete game changer.”


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26 comments:

pansypoo said...

um, i'm busy getting ready for an art show. i'll get back to blogging later.

the farmer said...

That time of year again.

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pjk said...

Didn't catch it. No dinero for HBO.

Nothing would surprise me, however.

If we had a car on full coverage insurance we wanted to get rid of, it should have been parked dead-center in the turnaround Monday night.

The upside is that nothing we want to keep was there, and now we don't need to cut it down (just cut it UP).

pansypoo said...

i bet you are wedding. my pole beans look good. onions are up. peas nibbled.

just a few more cuts to do. gotta make a list for fri.

pansypoo said...

weeding. lightning bugs today!

the farmer said...

weeding some but mostly just finishing up planting everything. planted the last round of corn on monday. still have some peppers to transplant too. pole beans are just coming up. They got put in later than usual this year. I've seen a lot of lighning bugs this year. I think its because it was a warm spring.

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the farmer said...

we don't need to cut it down (just cut it UP).

You lose some trees in those big storms that blew through?

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the farmer said...

It funny, you never hear anything from the cable news yappers about the dangers of natural gas drilling. No mention of any of this stuff from CNN or MSNBC etc... Not even from the liberals and progressives at MSNBC. Even after the well blowouts in PA and WV last week. Maybe its because GE Energy is involved with building natural gas powered engines (GE Jenbacher).

Maybe they'll be all upset after the oil and gas industry destroy the NY City watershed. And then, someday, after the damage is done, they'll all be on TV expressing righteous outrage. Why was this allowed to happen! Rinse, repeat (and so forth)...

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the farmer said...

looks like some really strong storms moving into your area tonight too.

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mike in pr said...

just got back home in PR in time to flip on the TV to see the US beat Algeria in soccer and Obama appoint Petreaus to succeed McChrystal in Afghanistan. All fine by me as long as McChrystal doesn't succeed Obama.

pansypoo said...

more likely petrayus.

had some tornado damage from the earlier storm. big storm rolled in about 3 am. MORE rain. no hail. my pole beans are about knee high. i gave up on peppers. never look as good as the ones at the farmers market. that was a long storm. not over til about 5 and windy. hard to guage rain. straight receptacles 1/2 in, 2+" in the angled.

'pond' in the 'back 40' this morning.

mike in pr said...

PA packed all four seasons into one week while we were there. Temps ranged from the 40.s to the 80s.

Back here it, rain, rain, rain. Alot of flash flooding. It looks like it's going to be a rough rainy season.

pansypoo said...

extra wet here too.

pjk said...

A little downpour tonight, but not anything like the extended downpour of Monday eve.

No great loss on the tree; it was a nasty, spongy Locust Bean.

The rest are still standing, but the creek that appears in torrential rains half-buried the crap in the ditch we've been HOPING the county will pick up with yard-based debris.


Gotta call the Town office and ask them what technicality they're employing to continue ignoring it.

the farmer said...

At least McChrystal didn't go all Jack D. Ripper on us and shoot himself in the bathroom (resorting to the Rolling Stone instead).

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pansypoo said...

i don't think locusts ever die. might have zombie baby locusts.

BEANS! i saw tomatoes and beets today. cherries coming.

pjk said...

Keenan Wynn, Sellers and - Sterling Hayden?- all kick ass, along with everyone else in Der Docktor.

I don't give a rat's ass about the government, but Coca-Cola? The quaint old days before modern Disney Lawyers.

pansypoo said...

why is extraction so destructive? we need to kill the 'grid' mentality. i think we need an electric stove.

pjk said...

Solar Electric, maybe. Because you're sure-as-shootin' tapped into the coal-fired plants down your way, pansy.

Can't rely on natgas to be cheap, clean, and plentiful for power production, now that everyone got hooked by that line. But-

what about using cheap, plentiful and *Clean* coal?


I'd sooner burn dung in a mud hut. Because aside from their corporate bullshit, they can't monopolize it.

Probably just lead to a user fee on burritos.

pansypoo said...

but we have a nuke plant too, right? ugh. we need solar panels. i saw plenty coal piles going up the river past art school.

pjk said...

I'm not so sure about that anymore, pansy. I know we get some Point Beach credit on the electric bill, but if it ain't mothballed yet, it is soon to be.

Staffed for the next 30 years, until rods cool down and they can slowly seep radioactivity into the lake.

Or maybe it's like Walt Disney freezing himself; perhaps Chistopher Lloyd will invent a auto propulsion sysem using spent fuel rods. And figure out how to reanimate Walt.

pansypoo said...

who knows. the grid is gonna kill us all.

pjk said...

Survivalists aren't COMPLETELY insane, pans.

I'm thinking heating, cooling, water, electrical supply, maybe even redundant backups for all, supplies etc.

Go ahead, boys. Spend 90 cents to the buck on cool AK-47 related bolt-ons and real military attire.

Your average U.S. farmer or their spouse and child could drop them Waaaay sooner than they could slog their fat asses over furrows in an attempt to get supplies or extend their imaginary authority in The Upcoming Crisis of Biblical Proportions.

Range, baby. Reach out and touch someone. If you're REALLY good, you could just graze a kneecap as a warning shot, if you wanted to be neighborly about it.

the farmer said...

your basic farmhouse 30-30 venison harvester will do the trick. But the loonies will want an AR or M4 or something fashionable like that so they can look like bad asses in their repro kypher mountain tactical boots.

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pjk said...

I deleted my 30-30 comment before I sent yesterday (being longwinded already).

Then there's the surplus hardware, like an M1 Garand, M14s, or even an old Springfield or Mauser.

There are enthusiasts, afficianados, fans- and the nuts.

It really cracks me up when they go on about a "2nd American Revolution".

Something else the sacred Founding Fathers didn't mention? Tactical air strikes. Good Luck with that one!

Bury My Heart at Tepid TeaBag.

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